Jon and Bryan are joined by Emmy Award winning producer and director Carl Hansen. Carl shares stories about his struggles in his youth and how it ultimately got him into the business of show. He also talks about his longtime involvement with the 48 hour film festival in Los Angeles, as well as his involvement with the Easter Seals and their support of getting more people with disabilities in front of and behind the camera. It is a wonderful episode that also includes talk of growing beards. Radio, cough, cry, enjoy, subscribe.