In this episode, Lee and Ellen and their guest, Wayne Duncan (musician and producer of this podcast), discuss the lessons we can learn from musicians and how they set up and tear down a stage. Together they look at:

• Overcoming the inefficiencies which make it hard to accomplish things if one person is missing

• Why taking pictures of things can save you a lot of time.

• If you're going to be doing something more than once, plan for the next time.