BJ was supposed to be chatting with Tim Virnig of Thunderworks Games, but how about that Year 2020, folks!  Luckily for BJ, Verla & Steve were ready to pick up the pieces of this debacle and throw cold water on the dumpster fire. 

So yeah. You'll hear a shift after the first minute, and I apologize in advance for the sound quality (just on my mic, fortunately). 

Anyway.... Verla & Steve and BJ chat about:

• the new one from Formal Ferret Games, High Rise;

Maybe it really should be called Verla Live!

Thanks for listening!  

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