You think your lawn is nice? Bet it’s not as nice as the Grassman’s.

Trey Rogers is a professor and researcher in Michigan State University’s internationally renowned Turfgrass Management Program, and just like he did in 1994, he’s helping grow, move and place the playing fields for the World Cup happening across North America next summer.

How do you grow beautiful, healthy grass soccer fields and put them in football stadiums with cement floors, some of them indoors? How do you make sure the fields will hold up for the biggest sporting event in the world? What’s his own lawn look like? And how often should you mow? Trey shares it all, and it’s fascinating.

Plus, we time travel with the saints and introduce our Cold Oatmeal spinoff pods.

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