Hello friends! Long Beach, NY based artist, T.J. Penzone, who plays under the name, These People is my guest for episode 1240! His latest release, the shoegaze/prog EP, "In Place Of Time" is available now wherever you stream or download music. They're about to head out on tour with Our Lady Peace starting Feb 7th. Go to thesepeople.org for tour dates, music, videos and more. TJ and I have a great conversation about his old band, Men, Women and Children (Warner Bros.), finding his voice as a songwriter and producer, growing up in Long Island, making "In Place Of Time", playing live, getting ghosted by his therapist and much more. I had a great time getting to know TJ. I'm sure you will too. Let's get down!

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