This episode was recorded back in the summer in between some of the dachshund episodes. While visiting Seth Roy, Gaylen also happened to be visiting, and it just made sense to get another long-tenured falconer on the podcast who was involved during the very early days of US falconry. It was a privelege to be able to hear about some of his early days of equipment-making, trapping, and what it was like in general trying to get into falconry before any of the widespread popularity and networking. If you value hearing about some of the early history of falconry, this is another episode for you!