Extremely good vibes in this Thanksgiving episode with former NAACP president, Maryland gubernatorial candidate, professor, and most importantly, Bernie Bro, Ben Jealous. Sometimes it's just nice to let the conversation follow a great conversationalist, and this week, the chat covers the biographical, racial identity, the merits of "defund" as a slogan, Ben's voting rights advocacy and why Biden's dragging his feet on filibuster reform, and a former gubernatorial candidates insights on what Democrats did wrong in Virginia. Like I said, the vibes are immaculate. Happy turkey day. Consider subscribing so Brie isn't constantly worried about subscriber numbers & producer Ben doesn't have to edit holiday episodes.

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