University Professor and former bassist for the Christian punk band "Undercover" Ojo Taylor returns to discuss a recent blog post he wrote as he turned 65.

Getting older ain't easy but Ojo reflects on the benefits that ageing brings including wisdom, perspective, and an understanding of what's really important in life. And of course with his very public transition from Christian musician to atheism we go on frequent tangents discussing God, faith, the nature of belief, and morality without religion...among other things!

Go Beyond the Pale with Ojo Taylor! 5:23 - Conversation begins 10:23 - When "friends" unfriend over belief differences 15:57 - Discussing ageing, mortality, and stages of life 16:32 - The benefits of therapy 24:48 - Comparing ourselves to others 25:52 - With age, "Time" becomes our currency

44:56 - No longer trying to "save the world for Jesus" 53:10 - Discussing morality without religion