Today I’m chatting with Caitlin Maple, self-proclaimed political nerd and women’s advocate.

Caitlin and I chat about changing the government through research; how studying psychology and an interest in politics lead to her professional life; how term limits strengthened lobbyists and gave us the political system we have today; why were optimists; why she wants to bring non-profits together; and her theory about Trump and Bernie.

Thank you for listening, Listeners, and thank you for sharing, Sharers, to my conversation with Caitlin Maple.