Oh hiiiiiiii. It’s been a hot, hot minute (with a wildfire portion) since our last episode. We were coasting on what was left of the summer fumes for a stretch, and now we all find ourselves in the early days of the 2021-2022 school year. With both Katie and Lee Ann sending their little ones off to school this September, we have thoughts. BUT ALSO! Katie has some BIG NEWS that she shares with us this episode, so you won’t want to miss it.

Episode 13 is a particularly awesome because it’s Part II of our discussion on gender identity. Last episode, we kicked off the conversation by talking to Anna, a mom navigating parenting her non-binary teen. In this episode, we have the great fortune of speaking to TWO people on this topic, one of whom is Anna’s kid, Sam! But, before we got into that chat, we also connected with our friend Samuel Broaden, an early education professional, who shared with us his insight on gender identity in young children.