It's Episode 13 of the Finding Games podcast, where we talk to people who work in and around the tabletop games industry and find out how they got there.

Mike Belsole (he/him) and Grace Kendall (they/them) are the organizers of the Tabletop Mentorship Program. Both are avid game designers and have worked at many conventions, and now can be spotted working at a board game cafe in Ohio. Grace's game Celestial Stories came out from Inkwell Games this summer, and they have a co-designed riddle-filled party game in the publishing pipeline.

You can find out more about the Tabletop Mentorship Program at https://www.tabletopmentorship.org/, or follow on Twitter @tabletopmentor.

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Music from filmmusic.io (incompetech.com):

"The Show Must Be Go" by Kevin MacLeod

“Happy Boy End Theme” by Kevin MacLeod

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