This week we chat with Crystal Andrews, journalist and founder of Zee Feed. We cover the “Stephen Graham effect” in talking about the politics of zoomer boys; the tension between legacy and new media; and the role of cringe in Ozpol.

Pat and Tim also talk about Sussan Ley’s new role in a Guy Ritchie film; Ted O’Brien losing his milk arrowroot; and how all small business owners are fascists.

Production once again by “Dictator” Dan Dare, and intro song is by The Southend Rainbows.

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