In Ep. 13 I'm sitting down with my hubby, Bryan Pogue, as he shares his (our) journey of intentionally stepping away from vocational church ministry to simply love people, even if we don't get a paycheck from the church.

Bryan talks about how his identity was wrapped up in what he did for over 15+ years, and his continual discovery that he is not what he does, but whose He is.  

Show Notes

Bryan's Reading Recs:

Redefining Sanctuary by Bekah J. Pogue

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