We (yeah, yeah, I mean Shlok and Joe, I mean Joe and Shlok, but who are we kidding here, it's just you and me in this little description box) talk a bit about the standup/influencer character we want to explore, and the need for stronger character dynamics in general.

We also talk a lot about I Think You Should Leave, and dream up a new podcast called "We Think You Should Stay."

Then both of us took it a little seriously and we got graphics, music, and episode ideas tied together. Thirteen episodes in and we're already thinking of a spinoff.

This is how empires are built.