Trevor and Sley House intern Anna Bisbee are joined by author Amal El-Mohtar, whose new book The River Has Roots is available from Tordotcom on March 4, 2025. Together, they talk about the book, about its origins as an audio project and its relationship to music, about the structure and nature of art, about magic as mundane and wonderful, and a whole lot more.

For more joyous things from Amal El-Mohtar, you can follow her at her website amalelmohtar.com, and you can find The River Has Roots at your local library or your favorite independent bookseller, available from Tordotcom.

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