Why is fame so appealing? Why are famous people so fascinating? We tell some celebrity stories so that’s exciting, right? But why? We conclude that we should treat our friends the way we’d treat famous people. (Famous people we like, that is.)

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[1] Ivanka’s Trump tweet - https://twitter.com/ivanka/status/821286796491362304 

[2] Girl, Woman, Other by Bernardine Evaristo - https://amzn.to/2Di0nUj 

[3] My Sister, the Serial Killer by Oyinkan Braithwaite - https://amzn.to/2XoM5Ii 

[4] Queenie by by Candice Carty-Williams - https://amzn.to/3i6IaYK 

[5] Ivanka’s Guilty Feminist exchange - https://twitter.com/GuiltFemPod/status/1288793444714938369 

[6] Michael’s video about playing live gigs - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eld2nWh73mk 

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