Hello friends! Ellis Ludwig-Leone from Brooklyn based, indie-folk band, San Fermin is my guest for episode 1351! Their new album, Arms comes out on February 16th on their own label, Better Company Records. They're also heading out on a U.S. tour starting this spring and they'll be at The Parish in Austin on June 11th. Go to sanferminband.com for tour info, music, videos, and more. Ellis and i have a great conversation about growing up in the classical music world and going to Yale, the San Fermin singers, Allen Tate and Claire Wellin, composing the dance opera, "The Night Falls", post-show hotel loneliness, dark horn arrangements vs peppy arrangements, how I identified with some of the songs on Arms, and much more. I had a great time getting to know Ellis. I'm sure you will too. Let's get down!

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