Check out this heartfelt conversation that we were honored to have with Mr. Ron Nelms, PLS and author of "Big Sticks by Little Sticks". We discussed his personal journey to becoming a land surveyor and the inspiration for this latest book. Ron was very transparent sharing the challenges of recalling life memories and emotions and expressing them on paper, the mentors that have and continue to influence his life, his perspective on the past, present and future of land surveying, and the importance of hard work, perseverance, and humility!! The cast this week included DD, PS and SGG! Don Draper was quoted & Fleetwood Mac provided the music for this episode!