The Tap Love Tour Podcast

Episode 138: Jason Samuels Smith & Moncell Durden - Rhythm, Lineage, and Reclassification


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In this powerful and unapologetic conversation, Travis sits down with Jason Samuels Smith and Moncell Durden for a deep dive into rhythm, lineage, identity, and the contested origins of tap dance. What begins as a discussion about credit and cultural memory quickly expands into a passionate exchange about Black indigeneity, diaspora, spirituality, and the politics of historical narrative.
Who owns rhythm?
Where do Black Americans come from?
How do we responsibly trace cultural lineage when memory has been fractured?
At times fiery and at times reflective, the conversation challenges dominant frameworks around Africa, the Americas, and tap dance history. This is not a passive listen. It’s an invitation to think critically, question inherited narratives, and engage with the complexity of cultural identity.
Connect with Jason: https://www.jsamsmith.com/
Connect with Moncell: https://www.moncelldurden.com/
Support Tap Love Tour on Patreon: patreon.com/travisknights
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