In this episode I'm joined by Amazon's head of design at the internet of things, Joanna Peña-Bickley. Joanna talks about how she transitioned from journalism into the design industry, how brands are re-defining their values, the future of designing for new technologies, the working life of an Amazonian, and loads more!

It was an honour to have Joanna on the podcast and I left feeling super inspired! / jealous that she talks such a good design game..