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Ben Ditto is an art director who has worked for publications like Dazed and one of Ana's all-time favorite bands, The 1975. This week, he joins the duo to discuss meme culture, Dave Chappelle, the Russia-Ukraine conflict, online censorship and the concept of artistic friction. (Ryan speaking here, fascinating episode, probably our most deservedly paywalled one yet personally speaking, you're in for a treat). 

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