The end of racism & anti-Blackness is not yet in sight. In this week's episode, Black is a Country, Nikhil Pal Singh asks what happened to the international & radical visions of equality that existed with Black intellectual activists from W. E. B. Du Bois in the 1930s to Martin Luther King, Jr. in the 1960s. In so doing, he constructs an alternative history of civil rights in the twentieth century in which radical hopes and global dreams are recognized as central to the history of black struggle.

Page chats with southside Chicago activist and host of Church on the 9, Charles Preston, about Black is a Country, discussing inclusion versus accommodation, and what exactly self-determination might look like.