In this episode of Trustworthy AI Chronicles, Dr. Ihsen Alouani speaks with Michelle Simpson, Head of Pen Testing at Instil, about the evolving relationship between AI and cyber security.

Drawing on over 20 years of experience, Michelle explains how AI is transforming penetration testing, introducing new attack vectors, and creating an entirely new area of specialism in AI security. They discuss the limits of AI, particularly its lack of contextual understanding, and why human expertise remains essential in building and maintaining trust in digital systems.

A must-listen for anyone working in cyber security, AI, or risk.