Ok, that's a cheesy title. You see, we recorded this podcast at Heights Draft Room, and that led to this pun. It's not even a pun, really. It's just a phrase that also includes the word heights.

In this episode, we're joined by Heights owner Joey Jones. His story involves all-state baseball, college football, prison hooch, Alcatraz, and beer. Beer is why we're here today. Also for some brownies, but mostly for some beer.

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