Bob is one of the most incredible people I've met in business, and the work he is doing is very transformative. His experience being in a cult is fascinating, and we dive well into it in this episode. Bob outlines how cults prey on vulnerable people and the ways they hide their manipulative nature. We also talked about how for those who are lucky to survive hitting rock bottom, it is usually the moment that turns their life around. For Bob, it meant getting sober and starting therapy and other treatments to work on himself. Bob also shares his perspective on time, and how we plant the trees whose shade we'll never know. It's up to older generations to create environments and structures to better the generations that come after them. It was a fascinating conversation that I hope you can gain a lot from! Read the show notes here: https://arcbound.com/podcasts/ Links: Homepage: Arcbound.com Services/Work with Us: https://arcbound.com/work-with-us/ About: https://arcbound.com/about/ Founders Corner: https://arcbound.com/category/founders-corner/ Connect: https://arcbound.com/connect/