Anna Holmes, the founding editor of Jezebel, writes for The New York Times and is the editorial director of Fusion.

“I think that Jezebel contributed to what I now call ‘outrage culture,’ but outrage culture has no sense of humor. We had a hell of a sense of humor, that's where it splits off. ... The fact that people who are incredibly intelligent and have interesting things to say aren't given the room to work out their arguments or thoughts because someone will take offense is depressing to me.”

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Show Notes:

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[2:00] "Is Self-Loathing a Requirement for Writers?" (New York Times Book Review • June 2015)

[8:00] Irin Carmon's Jezebel archive

[12:00] "The Five Great Lies of Women's Magazines" (Anna Holmes and Moe Tkacik • Jezebel • Nov 2007)

[19:00] "Linda Hirshman: I Didn't Call Anyone at Jezebel a Slut" (Emily Bazelon • Double X • May 2009)

[24:00] "How to Be a Good Bad American Girl" (New Yorker • Mar 2014)

[33:00] Longform Podcast #146: Rembert Browne

[36:00] Alexis Madrigal's Fusion archive

[40:00] "David Carr Confronts Vice" (Page One)

[42:00] "I Sing Backup for Stevie Wonder” (Anna Holmes and Mona Panchal • Fusion • Jun 2015)

[50:00] Longform Podcast #118: Emma Carmichael

[55:00] The Book of Jezebel: An Illustrated Encyclopedia of Lady Things (Grand Central Publishing • 2013)

[57:00] Hell Hath No Fury: Women's Letters from the End of the Affair (Carroll & Graf • 2002)

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