After our last episode with Rachel Steen who is just embarking on her career as a qualified GP, for Episode 15 we spoke to someone retired from clinical practice, with decades of experience in clinical leadership to draw upom.

This conversation is with Dr David Richmond, who is currently a Non-Executive Director at Birmingham Women and Children’s NHS Foundation Trust.

David was Medical Director at Liverpool Women's Hospital for 25 years, and was involved with the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists (RCOG) for 20 years. This culminated in becoming the Vice President (Clinical Quality) and then President of the College. Here, he was instrumental in delivering the first national outcome report for maternity which is now the National Maternal and Perinatal Audit programme.

His clinical specialty was that of Urogynaecology. As Chair of the Audit Committee of the British Society of Urogynaecology (BSUG) he developed the national BSUG surgical database with others. He retired from NHS clinical practice in 2017.

In this conversation David reflects on his decades of experience as a clinical leader, including:

*Highlights:

• His leadership journey (3.5 mins)
• Overcoming self doubt (6 mins)
• Balancing clinical and leadership roles (7.5 mins)
• Challenges he faced as President of the College (12.5 mins)
• His work on reducing perinatal mortality (14 mins)
• Lessons from working with politicians (19 mins)
• Balancing life at home (27 mins)
• A recommended book and person (30 mins)
• Top tips for new leaders (32.5 mins)

*Resources:

• Recommended book: Winning by Clive Woodward

*Social media:

• @NextGGP/@nishmanek

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