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Recorded: December 13, 2025
Episode 15 takes an honest, grounded look at forgiveness—what it is, what it is not, and why it can feel so hard. The conversation moves through betrayal, boundaries, self-forgiveness, family wounds, addiction recovery, faith, and the physical and emotional costs of holding resentment.
Rather than pushing “just let it go,” this episode emphasizes truth, safety, pacing, and compassion. Forgiveness is presented as a practice, not a demand—something that unfolds over time, sometimes unevenly, and often alongside grief and growth.
The hosts explore forgiveness from personal experience, research, faith perspectives, recovery frameworks, and everyday life. Listeners are reminded that forgiveness does not require reconciliation, apologies, or forgetting—and that self-forgiveness may be the hardest work of all.
Greg
Key Insight: Forgiveness is choosing to stop carrying the weight, not pretending the hurt never existed.
Quote:
“Forgiveness isn’t forgetting. It’s not saying it was fine. It’s not weakness. You can forgive and still say, ‘That was wrong,’ and protect yourself.”
Noteworthy Contributions:
Rich
Key Insight: Forgiveness and access are not the same thing.
Quote:
“Forgiveness softens the heart. Wisdom protects it.”
Noteworthy Contributions:
Jay
Key Insight: Feeling angry or triggered after forgiving does not mean you failed.
Quote:
“Just because you feel angry or triggered doesn’t mean you did it wrong.”
Noteworthy Contributions:
Liam
Key Insight: Waiting too long to forgive can come with its own regrets.
Quote:
“Don’t wait to forgive, because you don’t know if you’ll get the chance again.”
Noteworthy Contributions:
Derek
Key Insight: Holding onto anger can eclipse the good that was real.
Quote:
“If you negate everything that mattered, then it’s all been lost for nothing.”
Noteworthy Contributions:
Sam
Key Insight: Hatred costs more energy than many people have to spare.
Quote:
“It takes a lot of resources to hate, and I don’t have that many resources left.”
Noteworthy Contributions:
Sarah
Key Insight: Forgiveness is about your peace, not someone else’s absolution.
Quote:
“Forgiveness is more for you than it is for anyone else.”
Noteworthy Contributions:
Forgiveness does not mean minimizing what happened.
You don’t need to be perfect.
If this episode resonated, consider sharing it with someone who may be carrying unresolved pain. Healing often starts with being heard.
Be kind to yourself.
Forgiveness Stories & Teaching
Corrie Ten Boom – Forgiveness Testimony (Video)
Everett Worthington – “The Keys to Forgiving the Unforgivable” (Video)
Brené Brown – “Still Hurting? Here’s When to Forgive—and When to Let Go” (Video)
Brené Brown – “How to Forgive Yourself for Things You Still Feel Guilty About” (Video)
Alan Watts – “How to Forgive Yourself and Forgive the World” (Video)
Evidence-Based Forgiveness Tools & Worksheets
24 Forgiveness Activities, Exercises, Tips, and Worksheets – PositivePsychology.com
Forgiveness Therapy Worksheet – Mentalyc (Free PDF)
Practicing Forgiveness Using the REACH Technique – BetweenSessions (Worksheet/PDF)
Your Path to REACH Forgiveness – Human Flourishing Program (Harvard)
Therapist Aid – “What Is Forgiveness?” Worksheet
Tava Health – “Reaching Forgiveness” Worksheet (PDF)
Everett Worthington – REACH Forgiveness DIY Workbooks
DIY workbooks page: https://www.evworthington-forgiveness.com/diy-workbooks (Everett Worthington)
The REACH Forgiveness Workbook – Discover Forgiveness
Everett Worthington – Self-Forgiveness Workbook (“Moving Forward” companion)
Greater Good in Action – “Nine Steps to Forgiveness” (Luskin)
Greater Good in Action – “Eight Essentials When Forgiving” (Enright)
Random Acts of Kindness Foundation – “The Science of Kindness” (Video)
Video page: https://www.randomactsofkindness.org/kindness-videos/18-the-science-of-kindness (The Random Acts of Kindness Foundation)
Random Acts of Kindness Foundation – Main Site
Greater Good in Action – “Random Acts of Kindness” Practice
Greater Good in Action – “Self-Compassion Break”
Greater Good Science Center – “Being Kinder to Yourself” (Video & Podcast)
Kristin Neff – Self-Compassion Guided Practices
Corrie Ten Boom – Forgiveness & Romans 5:5
“Can you forgive? No, I can’t either — but He can.”
Jesus’ Prayer on the Cross – “Father, forgive them…”
Talking about deep hurt, trauma, betrayal, or family wounds can bring up intense feelings. This podcast and these notes are not a crisis service and not a replacement for professional care.
If you’re in immediate danger or thinking about harming yourself, please contact local emergency services right away (for example, 911 in the U.S. and Canada), or reach out to a trusted person near you.
Availability may vary by country, so always check the website for the most current information.
United States
United Kingdom & Republic of Ireland
Free, confidential emotional support 24/7 for anyone who is struggling, in distress, or thinking about suicide.
Australia
Canada (Children, Teens, and Young Adults)
Important Note
If you’re outside these regions, or if these services are not available to you, you can:
You deserve support.
Reaching out for help is a brave, important step—whether that’s to a friend, a faith leader, a therapist, or a crisis line.
By Greg ShawRecorded: December 13, 2025
Episode 15 takes an honest, grounded look at forgiveness—what it is, what it is not, and why it can feel so hard. The conversation moves through betrayal, boundaries, self-forgiveness, family wounds, addiction recovery, faith, and the physical and emotional costs of holding resentment.
Rather than pushing “just let it go,” this episode emphasizes truth, safety, pacing, and compassion. Forgiveness is presented as a practice, not a demand—something that unfolds over time, sometimes unevenly, and often alongside grief and growth.
The hosts explore forgiveness from personal experience, research, faith perspectives, recovery frameworks, and everyday life. Listeners are reminded that forgiveness does not require reconciliation, apologies, or forgetting—and that self-forgiveness may be the hardest work of all.
Greg
Key Insight: Forgiveness is choosing to stop carrying the weight, not pretending the hurt never existed.
Quote:
“Forgiveness isn’t forgetting. It’s not saying it was fine. It’s not weakness. You can forgive and still say, ‘That was wrong,’ and protect yourself.”
Noteworthy Contributions:
Rich
Key Insight: Forgiveness and access are not the same thing.
Quote:
“Forgiveness softens the heart. Wisdom protects it.”
Noteworthy Contributions:
Jay
Key Insight: Feeling angry or triggered after forgiving does not mean you failed.
Quote:
“Just because you feel angry or triggered doesn’t mean you did it wrong.”
Noteworthy Contributions:
Liam
Key Insight: Waiting too long to forgive can come with its own regrets.
Quote:
“Don’t wait to forgive, because you don’t know if you’ll get the chance again.”
Noteworthy Contributions:
Derek
Key Insight: Holding onto anger can eclipse the good that was real.
Quote:
“If you negate everything that mattered, then it’s all been lost for nothing.”
Noteworthy Contributions:
Sam
Key Insight: Hatred costs more energy than many people have to spare.
Quote:
“It takes a lot of resources to hate, and I don’t have that many resources left.”
Noteworthy Contributions:
Sarah
Key Insight: Forgiveness is about your peace, not someone else’s absolution.
Quote:
“Forgiveness is more for you than it is for anyone else.”
Noteworthy Contributions:
Forgiveness does not mean minimizing what happened.
You don’t need to be perfect.
If this episode resonated, consider sharing it with someone who may be carrying unresolved pain. Healing often starts with being heard.
Be kind to yourself.
Forgiveness Stories & Teaching
Corrie Ten Boom – Forgiveness Testimony (Video)
Everett Worthington – “The Keys to Forgiving the Unforgivable” (Video)
Brené Brown – “Still Hurting? Here’s When to Forgive—and When to Let Go” (Video)
Brené Brown – “How to Forgive Yourself for Things You Still Feel Guilty About” (Video)
Alan Watts – “How to Forgive Yourself and Forgive the World” (Video)
Evidence-Based Forgiveness Tools & Worksheets
24 Forgiveness Activities, Exercises, Tips, and Worksheets – PositivePsychology.com
Forgiveness Therapy Worksheet – Mentalyc (Free PDF)
Practicing Forgiveness Using the REACH Technique – BetweenSessions (Worksheet/PDF)
Your Path to REACH Forgiveness – Human Flourishing Program (Harvard)
Therapist Aid – “What Is Forgiveness?” Worksheet
Tava Health – “Reaching Forgiveness” Worksheet (PDF)
Everett Worthington – REACH Forgiveness DIY Workbooks
DIY workbooks page: https://www.evworthington-forgiveness.com/diy-workbooks (Everett Worthington)
The REACH Forgiveness Workbook – Discover Forgiveness
Everett Worthington – Self-Forgiveness Workbook (“Moving Forward” companion)
Greater Good in Action – “Nine Steps to Forgiveness” (Luskin)
Greater Good in Action – “Eight Essentials When Forgiving” (Enright)
Random Acts of Kindness Foundation – “The Science of Kindness” (Video)
Video page: https://www.randomactsofkindness.org/kindness-videos/18-the-science-of-kindness (The Random Acts of Kindness Foundation)
Random Acts of Kindness Foundation – Main Site
Greater Good in Action – “Random Acts of Kindness” Practice
Greater Good in Action – “Self-Compassion Break”
Greater Good Science Center – “Being Kinder to Yourself” (Video & Podcast)
Kristin Neff – Self-Compassion Guided Practices
Corrie Ten Boom – Forgiveness & Romans 5:5
“Can you forgive? No, I can’t either — but He can.”
Jesus’ Prayer on the Cross – “Father, forgive them…”
Talking about deep hurt, trauma, betrayal, or family wounds can bring up intense feelings. This podcast and these notes are not a crisis service and not a replacement for professional care.
If you’re in immediate danger or thinking about harming yourself, please contact local emergency services right away (for example, 911 in the U.S. and Canada), or reach out to a trusted person near you.
Availability may vary by country, so always check the website for the most current information.
United States
United Kingdom & Republic of Ireland
Free, confidential emotional support 24/7 for anyone who is struggling, in distress, or thinking about suicide.
Australia
Canada (Children, Teens, and Young Adults)
Important Note
If you’re outside these regions, or if these services are not available to you, you can:
You deserve support.
Reaching out for help is a brave, important step—whether that’s to a friend, a faith leader, a therapist, or a crisis line.