When Phish rolled into Manchester, NH, it sparked a full episode of reflection and debate for Eric and Dave. They explore their differing takes on Phish, whether they're truly a jam band, their ties to the Grateful Dead, and Dave's view that they align more closely with Frank Zappa. Eric shares his first unexpected Phish show in the '80s, and they dig into the scene and culture around the band, including recovery support groups, taping and trading shows, lifelong friendships, Shakedown Street, and what really happens in the parking lot. They break down how Phish has stayed outside the mainstream while evolving musically, with standout jams still hitting hard in 2025. And since they just scratched the surface of fandom, look for part two of this topic!