In this episode, I caught up with Rev. Angela Alvarado at a leadership conference. Angela is a church planter and we chatted a few minutes in between workshops. I promise to bring her back for a longer conversation in the future. 

I also talk about why we can't sustain happy-clappy for long periods of time. And I share my observations of the conference. 

Enjoy! 

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