We welcome Dr. Cleve Tinsley to the podcast this week. Dr. Cleve V. Tinsley IV is a scholar of American religion, race, and culture. He earned his MA and PhD in religion from Rice University where he concentrated in the study of African-American religions, primarily utilizing historical and social-scientific research methods. John and Matt listen as Dr. Tinsley contributes his perspective on race, religion and ways that we can learn from those outside of our community.