On this week's episode of SABRcast Rob Neyer is joined by author and artist Gary Cieradkowski. The pair discuss how Gary began to merge his work as a designer with his love of baseball, how being color blind impacts his art, and details on his latest book "21: The Illustrated Journal of Outsider Baseball." Later in the show Rob is joined by SABR CEO Scott Bush to dialog about winners of the weekend for just a shade less than 15 minutes. For show notes, extra content, and a list of what Rob's reading, visit the SABRcast website at https://sabr.org/sabrcast.