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Earlier this month, California Assemblymember Ash Kalra took heat from allies in the fight to pass a state-Medicare for All bill in California when he declined to force the vote on the bill. The reason? He says they didn't have the votes. Brie grills Klara on the strategic utility of allowing "progressive" Democrats obscure their opposition to Medicare for All by killing the vote. Will Kalra's strategy lead to more Democrats coming on next year? Or will the posturing displayed by Gov. Gavin Newsom, who supported a state-wide Medicare for All bill when facing a recall campaign but subsequently reneged, be repeated among assembly members? Wouldn't a vote put the position of corporate Dems be on the record? And what about the demoralizing impact killing the vote had on the movement? Moreover, Brie asked Ash why only two assemblymembers in such a progressive state are corporate free, and whether he is willing to call out Newsome and other corporate candidates as corrupt. It's an important interview. Don't miss it.

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