Romain, Tor, and Chet talked with Jesse Wilson from Square. Jesse has worked on several popular open-source libraries, including OkHttp, Okio, and [Ok]Moshi. We talk about those libraries, and others, and about Android, library, framework and Kotlin development. And about that nasty habit some engineers have of turning a feature request or minor annoyance into a project of creating a new open-source library instead. Favorite quote, from Jesse: "I started with 2k. Someone told me 8k was faster." Subscribe to the podcast feed or download the audio file directly. Links: OkHttp OkHttp Kotlin Release Okio Okio Buffer.kt internals GraalVM Jesse: @jessewilson Chet: @chethaase Romain: @romainguy Tor: @tornorbye Thanks to continued tolerance and support by our audio engineer, Dustin Elm.