Happy Christmas & Merry Geoholidays! The guys were joined this week by the one and only Joseph Kerski! With 30 + years experience in all 4 sectors of society including nonprofit (AAG, NCGE, UCGIS, others), government (NOAA, US Census Bureau, USGS), industry (Esri), and academia (University of Denver and others), Joseph's focus is on using geography and Geographic Information Sciences (GISc) to expand the use of spatial thinking in all sectors of society. He has been at Esri for nearly 17 years and is currently the Education Manager. We learned what life at Esri is like, what life is like growing up in a hotel, what the 5 societal forces are, why spatial thinking is vitally important, and a whole heck of a lot more. This was a GREAT conversation! Music for this episode by Lee Brice!!!