Join Carl, our host, as he talks this episode with two guests Jason Dyba & Ryan McCormick. These guys work for Passion City Church and Passion Conference along side of pastor, speaker and author Louie Giglio. They know the production world well and understand what it means to be a creative on a team with others week in and week out. They share from their world what it looks like to collaborate well with your Pastor. If ever you’ve thought you could improve that relationship, then give this a listen, you won’t be disappointed.

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