Some of my favorite conversations are super long, tangent filled, and raw. The conversation in this podcast is no exception. This episode was recorded in early January and it's with my friend Kyle Rucker. Kyle is a twin cities musician who's originally from Chicago. Although we're the exact same age, Kyle is someone who I look up to in the music industry. Not only is he an incredibly gifted and talented musician but he's also brilliant. He started a non profit organization called Project Footsteps that he ran for a decade and some change and helped thousands of youth learn music and valuable life lessons. Now Kyle runs Ruck B Media and manages artists, writes songs/jingles, organizes events, and does just about everything you can think of in the industry.