Gabe (@GaberInc) is joined by Ben Miller (@MasterMill), Founder of Wirth Hats (@WirthHats) - a hat company devoted towards destigmatizing conversations surrounding mental health. 

The duo discuss the ethos behind starting the hat company, steps to take in becoming more proactive about your mental health and unpack how their previous life experiences have shaped who they are today. 

This podcast is proudly sponsored by Granity Studios (@Granity). Listeners of the show receive 30 per cent off Granity's newest book, 'Epoca: the River of Sand': https://shop.aer.io/granitystudios/p/Epoca_The_River_of_Sand/9781949520187-8930.

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