A really stimulating conversation with Green Party presidential candidate Howie Hawkins. He's the original author of the Green New Deal, and we talk about whether current proposals are enough to solve the climate crisis, what issues you'll care about five years from now, and the future of the American left.

Music by Commodore 83: https://soundcloud.com/commodore1983/libretto

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Without spoiling anything, Howie is going to have some Very Good Tweets... he's @HowieHawkins and you should follow.