The Aspiring School Leader Podcast

Episode 16: Why Most Assistant Principals Never Lead | How to Change That


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What makes an Assistant Principal vital to a school’s success?

In this conversation, Principal Baruti Kafele sits down with Dr. Donovan Smalls II, Principal Arlette Melo Johnson, and Dr. Sonia Matthew to unpack the real work of school leadership—reflection, alignment, humanity, and purpose.

This episode challenges every AP, teacher, and school leader to go beyond titles and build a culture where learning, empathy, and accountability thrive.

🎧 Listen, reflect, and share your biggest takeaway in the comments—how are you redefining leadership in your school?

📕 Learn more about leadership growth and coaching → https://donovansmalls2.com/coaching

0:00 – Introduction 2:10 – Arlette Melo Johnson: “Backpack Full of Dreams

15:25 – Dr. Sonia Matthew: Reflection and Human-Centered Leadership

28:55 – Dr. Donovan Smalls II: Transformational AP Leadership

45:59 – Calibration Between Principals & APs 1:10:40 – Closing Reflections

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