On this episode, Graham and Jess open the podcast, chatting about the 4th of July. Graham thinks the Midwest does the 4th the best, and Jess is just "meh" about it. Topic of the day: Training Children for Worship. Why do we do what we do with children on a Sunday morning, that's the focus of this conversation. We hope this conversation will help clarify why we have a children's lesson during the sermon, and also why we want children in the service at younger ages.