"The more we can get into our [developers'] hands [...] the faster we've seen adoption, the faster we've seen growth, the more we've seen folks understand the tools because they're diving in and taking ownership" - Miranda LeBlanc, Developer Enablement, Liberty Mutual

In this episode, Dormain chats with three people (Miranda LeBlanc, Matt Ruel, and Kevin Ingvalson), all with different roles that impact the developer experience at Liberty Mutual. She finds out what moves the needle, what changes when you think about getting to production as part of the developer experience, and why containers matter... But the meta takeaway is that all three are laser focused on building a delightful (and secure) experience for developers. That alone speaks volumes to how far and wide the "developer centric" mindset can and should go.

See full show notes here: https://content.pivotal.io/podcasts/developer-experience-is-a-team-effort-at-liberty-mutual