On an episode about the classic film Jaws, how could we not have a galephobe as a special guest? As such, we welcome Louis to the pod to make him profoundly uncomfortable!

But aside from that, we also talk car troubles, Black Annis, The Woman of the Rain, the nature of magic and creativity, irrational fears, hair envy, and how Rooney is definitely not a sociopath.

There's also a Ghostbusters quiz, and Reggie is really quiet!