So, you're digitally transforming... what does "good" look like?

"Getting developers to the point where developers want to change."

In this episode, Dormain sits down with Paul Pelafas (@paulpelafas) and Jonathan Regehr (@jonathanregehr) to hear how two different organizations navigated digital transformation journeys. They discuss what "good" looks like, how a healthy software culture is sustained (and destroyed), and the difference between grassroots and executive-led transformations.

See full show notes here: https://tanzu.vmware.com/content/podcasts/a-tale-of-two-digital-transformations