Since Jon Snow rode off into the sunset with Tormund (spoilers?) there's been a void once filled with fantasy spectacle and relationship drama. Thanks to Amazon Prime's Carnival Row, our lives are once again full of political intrigue and a jam packed cast led by Orlando Bloom* and Cara Delevingne.

Guest Jill joins Matt and Joyce to talk about this new victorian steampunk series and whether or not it will (or should) fill the gap that Game of Thrones left in the genre.

*You may know him from another little fantasy genre movie called Lord of the rings and appearances in the Hobbit trilogy but we don't talk about that.