In this episode I was really excited to speak with the authors of the new book 'The Power of Discord', Dr. Ed Tronick and Dr. Claudia M. Gold, about everything from our development as children through to our interactions as adults and how it's all related.

I hope you enjoy listening to it as much as I enjoyed recording it!

The website for the new book is https://thepowerofdiscord.com/

Claudia's website mentioned in the show is https://www.claudiamgoldmd.com/

You can buy all of the books mentioned via those websites or at your usual book retailer.

The Netflix documentary we mention in which Ed is featured is https://www.netflix.com/title/80117833

You can see the original still face experiment here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apzXGEbZht0

And the version with dads mentioned by Ed here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6czxW4R9w2g

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