Dr. Jerome Van Kuiken is a professor of Ministry and Christian Thought at Oklahoma Wesleyan University; he is an ordained minister in the Wesleyan Church; and he is the author of numerous books and articles, including most recently a book called The Creed We Need: Nicene Faith For Wesleyan Witness. On today's episode, I have a conversation with Dr. Van Kuiken on the 1700th anniversary of the Council of Nicaea and its ongoing influence on our lives. This is such a great conversation, and I can't wait for you to hear it.