The Glennon Factor

Episode 17 - Big Changes for Our Smallest Patients - How Our NICU Has Evolved


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In this episode of The Glennon Factor, we celebrate the evolution of neonatal intensive care through the eyes of two extraordinary clinicians. Join us as we sit down with Dr. Robert Fleming, a neonatologist with more than 40 years of experience at SSM Health Cardinal Glennon, and Dr. Lottchen Wider, a long-term critical care nurse, and Professor Emeritus, who still volunteers weekly in our NICU. Together, they share personal reflections on the dramatic changes they’ve witnessed in neonatology—from the days when a 2-pound baby faced a 95% mortality rate, to today’s reality where survival has become the expectation, not the exception. Tune in for a powerful conversation about progress, purpose, and the lifelong passion that continues to shape the future of care for our tiniest patients.

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The Glennon FactorBy SSM Health Cardinal Glennon Children’s Foundation