An absolute rambling session with Carl Moss, an "absolute gangster" who served in the Army with Jack and worked with both me and Jack in the PT studio that shall not be named. Carl is a talented videographer who has blown up in the fitness industry since he went full time at the end of 2019, and is now working with some of the biggest names in bodybuilding.  I can't even remember what was spoken about, but it was a fun conversation.  Enjoy!