Giant's interview with Deb, a fine artist and muralist from Australia, currently based in Los Angeles. Recorded in a guest house in Mid City, Los Angeles on July 4th, 2019 during the set-up for a party.

Topics discussed include: a difficult birth, growing up in Melbourne, art programs in private/public school, vandalizing desks, anorexia, recovery, pre-internet networking, being a female artist, getting a graphic design diploma mid-20s, the early years of computers and cellphones, pager codes, the effect of cellphones on graffiti writing, modems, the invention of email, AOL chatrooms, traditional vs. digital drawing, the earthquake, reproductions vs. originals, craft vs. idea, finding your audience, Tumblr, getting on Instagram, changes in the art economy, technology appreciation, Melbourne vs. Sydney, San Francisco, Eddie Zammit, the first studio visit, chance encounters, logistics of moving to the US, semi-legal status, working internationally, subletting Giant’s apartment, sketchy landlords in San Francisco, San Jose, Boulder, Jeremy Fish, working on the street, the loss of heritage businesses in San Francisco, Summer of Love, changing neighborhoods, downtown LA, collecting skateboards, getting mugged, Beauty Bar, traumatic brain injury, recovery, chronic migraines, Apex, spray paint, Bigfoot, mops, latex house paint, mural work, 6th Street, pedestrian traffic, Santa Fe, lowrider culture, the new Los Angeles.

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